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SC2k7 Oracle Challenge - Divisions 1 & 2
From: Heroic Viktor | Posted: 8/21/2007 6:32:21 PM | Message Detail
Knuckles the Echidna - 28.27%
Rikku - 25.27%
Vaan - 18.19%
Yoshi - 28.27%

Arthas Menethil - 12.00%
Diablo - 10.33%
KOS-MOS - 11.00%
Mega Man - 66.67%

Axel -12.00%
Frog - 13.00%
Samus Aran - 66.67%
Sarah Kerrigan - 8.33%

Agent 47 -19.00%
Kratos Aurion - 21.00%
Midna - 30.00%
Scorpion - 30.00%

Kefka - 32.00%
Marcus Fenix - 33.00%
Tom Nook - 15.00%
Zelos Wilder - 20.00%

Cloud Strife - 68.00%
Jill Valentine - 18.00%
Midgar Zolom - 3.00%
Revolver Ocelot - 17.00%

Auron - 40.00%
Chris Redfield - 20.00%
Pyramid Head - 10.00%
Shadow the Hedgehog - 30.00%

Bowser - 33.00%
Mewtwo -22.00%
Ryu (Street Fighter) - 33.00%
Toad - 12.00%

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128 character battle royale? My head hurts.
RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/05
From: IhatethisCPU | Posted: 8/22/2007 9:46:52 AM | Message Detail
...Feh. GBA hasn't shown up, so I don't feel bad about what I'm doing, here.

CHANGE
Knuckles the Echidna - 41%
Rikku - 20%.
Vaan - 2%.
Yoshi - 37%.

Arthas Menethil - 50%.
Diablo - 25%.
KOS-MOS - 15%.
Mega Man - 10%

Axel - 45%.
Frog - 14%.
Samus Aran - 1%.
Sarah Kerrigan - 40%.

Agent 47 - 45%.
Kratos Aurion - 10%.
Midna - 40%.
Scorpion - 5%.

Kefka - 12%.
Marcus Fenix - 40%
Tom Nook - 18%.
Zelos Wilder - 30%.

Cloud Strife - 1%.
Jill Valentine - 9%.
Midgar Zolom - 75%.
Revolver Ocelot - 15%

Auron - 15%.
Chris Redfield - 7%.
Pyramid Head - 67%.
Shadow the Hedgehog - 11%.

Bowser - 43%.
Mewtwo - 43%.
Ryu (Street Fighter) - 11%.
Toad - 3%.

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Lu Meng: We must fight Guan Yu!
Guan Yu: I am to be my own enemy? This shall be difficult indeed!
From: linkhatesganon | Posted: 8/22/2007 10:09:53 AM | Message Detail
I'll make another CHANGE (this match is killing me):

Agent 47 -12.81%
Kratos Aurion -26.44%
Midna -36.63%
Scorpion -24.12%
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Onimimi's films rules!
From: Z1mZum | Posted: 8/22/2007 2:02:58 PM | Message Detail
This is my tag, as well as the first couple of days worth of matches. I doubt I'll do percentages much past a week, though.

Knuckles the Echidna - 32.87%
Rikku - 22.09%
Vaan - 16.91%
Yoshi - 28.13%

Arthas Menethil - 10.57%
Diablo - 14.25%
KOS-MOS - 11.68%
Mega Man - 63.50%
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Former All-knowing guru.
Rufus Shinra is a guru fiend!
From: LinkLegend27 | Posted: 8/22/2007 3:11:20 PM | Message Detail
My predictions:

Knuckles the Echidna - 31.61%
Rikku - 22.21%
Vaan - 12.67%
Yoshi - 33.51%

Arthas Menethil -7.21%
Diablo - 17.63%
KOS-MOS - 14.32%
Mega Man - 60.84%

Axel - 10.01%
Frog - 22.31%
Samus Aran -57.79%
Sarah Kerrigan -9.89%

Agent 47 -11.10%
Kratos Aurion - 17.37
Midna - 43.92%
Scorpion - 27.61%

Kefka -41.60%
Marcus Fenix -25.31%
Tom Nook - 13.77%
Zelos Wilder -19.32%

Cloud Strife - 70.32%
Jill Valentine -12.67%
Midgar Zolom -5.64%
Revolver Ocelot -11.37%

Auron - 39.67%
Chris Redfield -19.32%
Pyramid Head -15.80%
Shadow the Hedgehog -25.21%

Bowser -37.54%
Mewtwo -15.97%
Ryu (Street Fighter) -38.61%
Toad -7.88%

VICTORY!
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From: Jmast7 | Posted: 8/22/2007 3:23:23 PM | Message Detail
Knuckles the Echidna - 32.94%
Rikku - 30.56%
Vaan - 2.44%
Yoshi - 35.06%

Arthas Menethil - 4.34%
Diablo - 24.66%
KOS-MOS - 26.06%
Mega Man - 44.94%

Axel - 13.43%
Frog - 15.08%
Samus Aran - 64.92%
Sarah Kerrigan - 6.57%

Agent 47 - 6.50%
Kratos Aurion - 33.33%
Midna - 28.67%
Scorpion - 31.50%

Kefka - 44.54%
Marcus Fenix - 20.46%
Tom Nook - 19.50%
Zelos Wilder - 15.50%

Cloud Strife - 68.90%
Jill Valentine - 25.10%
Midgar Zolom - 1.23%
Revolver Ocelot - 4.77%

Auron - 38.80%
Chris Redfield - 28.22%
Pyramid Head - 10.78%
Shadow the Hedgehog - 32.20%

Bowser - 49.99%
Mewtwo - 18.01%
Ryu (Street Fighter) - 20.34%
Toad - 11.66%

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Everything happens for a reason...
Lost Theories and Reviews: http://mistakingcoincidence.blogspot.com/
From: Jmast7 | Posted: 8/22/2007 3:24:09 PM | Message Detail
Jebus, this is hard. I may have to make changes later on. <_<
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Everything happens for a reason...
Lost Theories and Reviews: http://mistakingcoincidence.blogspot.com/
From: King Morgoth | Posted: 8/23/2007 10:29:49 AM | Message Detail
*up*
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Kaxon is a figurehead. Morgoth has all the real power. - Janus5000
SpC2k4 Triple Crown WINNER (Oracle, Betting, Spread Betting)
From: Canth | Posted: 8/23/2007 11:54:11 AM | Message Detail
Division one.. This is damn hard.

Knuckles the Echidna - 30.38%
Rikku - 23.56%
Vaan - 11.80%
Yoshi - 34.26%

Arthas Menethil - 3.01%
Diablo - 17.02%
KOS-MOS - 21.34%
Mega Man - 58.63%

Axel - 18.37%
Frog - 18.07%
Samus Aran - 57.49%
Sarah Kerrigan - 6.07%

Agent 47 - 13.81%
Kratos Aurion - 18.62%
Midna - 35.03%
Scorpion - 32.54%

More to come later
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In Progress: FFT Cleric SSCC (Limberry)
From: th3l3fty | Posted: 8/23/2007 12:03:44 PM | Message Detail
Knuckles the Echidna - 32.17%
Rikku - 21.46%
Vaan - 15.39%
Yoshi - 30.98%
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Knight of the Cross of Sir Chris' Court
I have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris
From: King Morgoth | Posted: 8/23/2007 1:18:42 PM | Message Detail
People looking for a partner: (Requests)
andylt
AmazingKirby
baubeta
BeTheMan
Biolizard28 (Suprak, pikaness)
consolefreak (HM)
DarkLink89
entropyx
Evil_REmade
freac
Gaddswell
GoldSlime35 (?)
HeroicTronBonne
Icon
jonthomson (Sine)
Kaidyn04
Link versus Cloud
Mantyke
marioinblack
NClark128
oneills1
PeaceOut64
pikaness
Radix
Ringworm
SF_Clowns
Shaduln
Shoenin_Kakashi (?)
somdude04
SpikeDragon (Stifled)
Starion
StifledSilence
supdawg
Suprak the Stud
Taslion (Tombawocxer)
Tombawocxer
Tom Bombadil (icon)

Teams:
1. Kaxon/King Morgoth - Team We Used To Be Good?
2. Janus5000/KleenexTissue50 - Team Battle with Gilgamesh = J-E-N-O-V-A
3. neonreaper/Sess - Team Jagermeister
4. amyvitality66/raytan7585 - Team Klonoa Alliance
5. Dekar TKB/Haste2 - Team Drunkadelict Armadillos
6. Explicit Content/Master Moltar - Team Big Black Wangs
7. linkhatesganon/ScorpionX3 - Team Los Gonzalez
8. DSRage/War13104 - Team RAGE OF WARCRAFT
9. _Yonex_/Ayvuir - Team The Shy Teds
10. Stingers/Tirofog - Team Eltbus
11. MajinZidane/Smurf - Team The X Crewstaters
12. Alanna82/kawaiifan - Team Jigglypuff
13. BBallman7/LinkLegend27 - Team omgcelticscouldmaketheplayoffs
14. Luis_Sera89/StifledSilence - Team StifledSera
15. TRE/Xcarvengerx - Team ???
16. FastFalcon05/kaonashi1 - Team Better Bettors
17. CrimsonOcean/Lady Ashe - Team Vector Industries
18. Applekidjosh/Jay Lv99 - Team Elitist Clique Members
19. outback/Rodri316 - Team High Society
20. Aprosenf/Draco1214 - Team Indomitable Force
21. satai_delenn/Lopen - Team The Council of Two
22. MaxedOutRyu/yoshifan823 - Team Boondock Saints
23. Sir Chris/yoblazer33 - Team ???
24. Forceful Dragon/SBell0105 - Team DragonBellZ
25. BZer0/ShatteredElysium - Team Ice Cream
26. basmeyer42/ps2rulezzz - Team mvp's
27. GameBopAdv/IhatethisCPU - Team It's An Upset! And You're On Your Own
28. Eeeevil Overlord/Maniac64 - Team Fodder
29. Camden/meche313 - Team Happy Happyists
30. Vlado/Zylo the wolf - Team ???
31. alpha door/Lagoona - Team LADS
32. Ness26/TheKnightOfNee - Team OH IT'S NESS
33. BlAcK TuRtLe/XxSoulxX - Team lol xstats
34. Jmast7/Leebo86 - Team ?Discovery Channel?
35. Dilated Chemist/Z1mZum - Team Awesome
36. Pats_Dynasty/SuperSmash Master - Team ?ISS GON RAIN?
37. creativename/Ngamer64 - Team Predestined Divination
38. StopPokingMe/ToadYoshi - Team Jinjo! Unless poking objects
39. GrapefruitKing/Xuxon - Team Team Helmasaur King
40. DpObliVion/WiggumFan267 - Team Mets & Sonic at the Oracle Games!
41. Canth/Scythe Marshall - Team Hyperion
42. Paratroopa1/swirldude - Team Paraswirlsion
43. ad00/cyko - Team ???
44. Darkash/Heroic Viktor - Team Battle Royale
45. Menji76/Seginustemple - Team magical innuendo pirates with guitars
46. Ed Bellis/transience - Team ???
47. Hartzenan/Tomoyo - Team ???
48. cokes/Giggsalot - Team ???
49. WhakkoJacko/XIII_rocks - Team ???
50. MegaTokyoEd/Redtooth - Team ???
51. kirbyjump/warning_crazy - Team ???
52. ActJef1077/Weird Kirby Dude - Team SPO*N
53. FigureOfSpeech/Luster Soldier - Team Jesus Wants Our Nuts
54. AlecTrevelyan006/DaruniaTheGoron - Team Two-Faced Gorons
55. th3l3fty/yazzy14 - Team ???
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Kaxon is a figurehead. Morgoth has all the real power. - Janus5000
SpC2k4 Triple Crown WINNER (Oracle, Betting, Spread Betting)
From: Scythe Marshall | Posted: 8/23/2007 1:35:41 PM | Message Detail
Alright, here we go. This could be interesting.

Knuckles the Echidna - 27.75%
Rikku - 23.75%
Vaan - 15%
Yoshi - 33.5%

Arthas Menethil - 10%
Diablo - 28.5%
KOS-MOS - 23.5%
Mega Man - 42%

Axel - 27.5%
Frog - 23%
Samus Aran - 40%
Sarah Kerrigan - 9.5%

Agent 47 - 14%
Kratos Aurion - 32%
Midna - 28%
Scorpion - 26%

Kefka - 37.5%
Marcus Fenix - 18%
Tom Nook - 10%
Zelos Wilder - 34.5%

Cloud Strife - 51%
Jill Valentine - 24%
Midgar Zolom - 6%
Revolver Ocelot - 19%

Auron - 35%
Chris Redfield - 27.5%
Pyramid Head - 12%
Shadow the Hedgehog - 25.5%

Bowser - 32%
Mewtwo - 25%
Ryu (Street Fighter) - 30%
Toad - 13%
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Ignorance is bliss, no wonder I'm never happy. >_<
*Ching* Scythe Marshall ready to slaughter! FFT Junkie
From: GrapefruitKing | Posted: 8/23/2007 6:02:51 PM | Message Detail
I don't think Xuxon and I need the word Team two times in our team name <_<;
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It's a penguin murder mystery !!!
From: Radix | Posted: 8/23/2007 6:22:47 PM | Message Detail
Oh mans this is hard ><

Knuckles the Echidna - 34.80%
Rikku - 20.09%
Vaan - 11.82%
Yoshi - 33.29%

Arthas Menethil - 14.04%
Diablo - 19.69%
KOS-MOS - 24.56%
Mega Man - 41.71%

Axel - 20.82%
Frog - 25.44%
Samus Aran - 43.17%
Sarah Kerrigan - 10.57%

Agent 47 - 8.57%
Kratos Aurion - 17.92%
Midna - 38.89%
Scorpion - 34.62%

Kefka - 43.65%
Marcus Fenix - 27.31%
Tom Nook - 5.44%
Zelos Wilder - 23.6%

Cloud Strife - 50.37%
Jill Valentine - 22.18%
Midgar Zolom - 7.88%
Revolver Ocelot - 19.57%

Auron - 39.66%
Chris Redfield - 17.73%
Pyramid Head - 9.77%
Shadow the Hedgehog - 32.84%

Bowser - 36.28%
Mewtwo - 21.27%
Ryu (Street Fighter) - 30.79%
Toad - 11.14%
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"You're nothing more than lowly cookie dough! Yet you would dare defy me!?"
From: Kaxon | Posted: 8/24/2007 11:02:54 AM | Message Detail
Time for some more predictions...

Kefka - 29%
Marcus Fenix - 27%
Tom Nook - 23%
Zelos Wilder - 21%

Cloud Strife - 62%
Jill Valentine - 17%
Midgar Zolom - 6%
Revolver Ocelot - 15%

Auron - 41%
Chris Redfield - 17%
Pyramid Head - 9%
Shadow the Hedgehog - 33%

Bowser - 31%
Mewtwo - 22%
Ryu (Street Fighter) - 29%
Toad - 18%

This is so weird. Some matches I kinda tried to use stats on, but some matches like the last one I pretty much had to guess.
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Tia mi aven Moridin isainde vadin
From: -LusterSoldier- | Posted: 8/24/2007 11:56:22 AM | Message Detail
Better make some safety picks since I'll be going off to college tomorrow:

Knuckles the Echidna - 31.98%
Rikku - 21.71%
Vaan - 11.89%
Yoshi - 34.42%

Arthas Menethil - 10.62%
Diablo - 19.93%
KOS-MOS - 27.25%
Mega Man - 42.20%

Axel - 10.59%
Frog - 29.06%
Samus Aran - 42.84%
Sarah Kerrigan - 17.51%

Agent 47 - 7.62%
Kratos Aurion - 24.17%
Midna - 34.43%
Scorpion - 33.78%

Kefka - 37.83%
Marcus Fenix - 28.46%
Tom Nook - 12.21%
Zelos Wilder - 21.50%

Cloud Strife - 46.21%
Jill Valentine - 28.68%
Midgar Zolom - 7.58%
Revolver Ocelot - 17.53%

Auron - 40.87%
Chris Redfield - 14.42%
Pyramid Head - 9.47%
Shadow the Hedgehog - 35.24%

Bowser - 39.59%
Mewtwo - 19.06%
Ryu (Street Fighter) - 31.96%
Toad - 9.39%
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Luster Soldier - Popular at school. ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~
From: steve illumina | Posted: 8/24/2007 12:39:20 PM | Message Detail
Yep, the Sage needs a partner. Give me a good one, King :)
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Steve Illumina: Sage of Board 8 & Elitist Analyst
In the name of my daughter Rydia, I shall win Battle VI!
From: ActJef1077 | Posted: 8/24/2007 9:54:29 PM | Message Detail
placeholder predictions, since I have no idea what I'm doing yet

Knuckles the Echidna - 28%
Rikku - 26%
Vaan - 5%
Yoshi - 41%

Arthas Menethil - 14%
Diablo - 22%
KOS-MOS - 24%
Mega Man - 40%

Axel - 19%
Frog - 27%
Samus Aran - 42%
Sarah Kerrigan - 12%

Agent 47 - 10%
Kratos Aurion - 27%
Midna - 28%
Scorpion - 35%

Kefka - 41%
Marcus Fenix - 20%
Tom Nook - 13%
Zelos Wilder - 46%

Cloud Strife - 57%
Jill Valentine - 17%
Midgar Zolom - 3%
Revolver Ocelot - 23%

Auron - 42%
Chris Redfield - 19%
Pyramid Head - 9%
Shadow the Hedgehog - 30%

Bowser - 35%
Mewtwo - 22%
Ryu (Street Fighter) - 34%
Toad - 9%

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Call me Jeff Official midget of The Book Club
If you paint a W on each of your buttcheeks and do cartwheels it will say WoW MoM WoW! -C Bar
From: KleenexTissue50 | Posted: 8/24/2007 9:54:53 PM | Message Detail
I should probably do these soon.
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Kleenex - Now with an invigorating blast of citrus cherry flavor.
From: Starion | Posted: 8/25/2007 12:21:23 AM | Message Detail
Say, once I get paired with a random partner, can I get my old team name of Dartboard? Just for consistency's sake.
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100% Frog Log Quest: Current Progress- 400 of 627 Completed: Jaster, Kisala, Deego
From: King Morgoth | Posted: 8/25/2007 9:29:00 AM | Message Detail
Say, once I get paired with a random partner, can I get my old team name of Dartboard? Just for consistency's sake.

That shouldn't be a problem.
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Kaxon is a figurehead. Morgoth has all the real power. - Janus5000
SpC2k4 Triple Crown WINNER (Oracle, Betting, Spread Betting)
From: ECW RVD420 | Posted: 8/25/2007 12:31:53 PM | Message Detail
tag
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The whole F'N show // I'm only 2 girls short of a three-some!!
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From: yazzy14 | Posted: 8/25/2007 1:06:50 PM | Message Detail
th3l3fty and I are going to be Team One-Two Punch because we won Divisions I and II in the UUL. Awww yeah!

And I'll get my numbers in eventually. <_<
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Brevity is the Soul of Wit.
From: SF_Clowns | Posted: 8/25/2007 1:29:13 PM | Message Detail
We'll see how close I am for my first oracle predictions. Also, I also don't mind being randomly chosen to a partner if needed.

Knuckles the Echidna - 28.5%
Rikku - 20.0%
Vaan - 19.0%
Yoshi - 32.5%

Arthas Menethil - 10.0%
Diablo - 24.0%
KOS-MOS - 17.5%
Mega Man - 48.5%

Axel - 10.5%
Frog - 22.5%
Samus Aran - 55.0%
Sarah Kerrigan - 12.0%

Agent 47 - 5.5%
Kratos Aurion - 20.5%
Midna - 35.5%
Scorpion - 38.5%

Kefka - 42.0%
Marcus Fenix - 27.0%
Tom Nook - 4.0%
Zelos Wilder - 27.0%

Cloud Strife - 55.0%
Jill Valentine - 22.5%
Midgar Zolom - 2.5%
Revolver Ocelot - 20.0%

Auron - 65.0%
Chris Redfield - 12.5%
Pyramid Head - 5.0%
Shadow the Hedgehog - 17.5%

Bowser - 40.0%
Mewtwo - 22.5%
Ryu (Street Fighter) - 27.5%
Toad - 10.0%

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Biggest Phil Hartman Fan...R.I.P
Biggest Newsradio Fan...R.I.P.
From: FigureOfSpeech | Posted: 8/25/2007 5:55:23 PM | Message Detail
For now I'm just making the same predictions as my partner

Knuckles the Echidna - 31.98%
Rikku - 21.71%
Vaan - 11.89%
Yoshi - 34.42%

Arthas Menethil - 10.62%
Diablo - 19.93%
KOS-MOS - 27.25%
Mega Man - 42.20%

Axel - 10.59%
Frog - 29.06%
Samus Aran - 42.84%
Sarah Kerrigan - 17.51%

Agent 47 - 7.62%
Kratos Aurion - 24.17%
Midna - 34.43%
Scorpion - 33.78%

Kefka - 37.83%
Marcus Fenix - 28.46%
Tom Nook - 12.21%
Zelos Wilder - 21.50%

Cloud Strife - 46.21%
Jill Valentine - 28.68%
Midgar Zolom - 7.58%
Revolver Ocelot - 17.53%

Auron - 40.87%
Chris Redfield - 14.42%
Pyramid Head - 9.47%
Shadow the Hedgehog - 35.24%

Bowser - 39.59%
Mewtwo - 19.06%
Ryu (Street Fighter) - 31.96%
Toad - 9.39%
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I don't like Haley Scarnato. She is ugly and lame and untalented.
See quote for current projects
From: WhakkoJacko | Posted: 8/26/2007 10:52:41 AM | Message Detail
Knuckles the Echidna - 30%
Rikku - 26%
Vaan - 16%
Yoshi - 28%

Arthas Menethil - 13%
Diablo - 24%
KOS-MOS - 20%
Mega Man - 43%

Axel - 17%
Frog - 23%
Samus Aran - 54%
Sarah Kerrigan - 6%

Agent 47 - 14%
Kratos Aurion - 30%
Midna - 29%
Scorpion - 27%

Kefka - 26%
Marcus Fenix - 31%
Tom Nook - 19%
Zelos Wilder - 24%

Cloud Strife - 65%
Jill Valentine - 16%
Midgar Zolom - 4%
Revolver Ocelot - 15%

Auron - 34%
Chris Redfield - 24%
Pyramid Head - 11%
Shadow the Hedgehog - 31%

Bowser - 30%
Mewtwo - 25%
Ryu (Street Fighter) - 27%
Toad - 18%
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i dont like haley scarnato
From: daniel2424 | Posted: 8/26/2007 11:26:50 AM | Message Detail
Damn, I can't use my special end everything with .24 this year, oh well...


Knuckles the Echidna - 32.24%
Rikku - 25.24%
Vaan - 9.28%
Yoshi - 33.24%

Arthas Menethil - 8.28%
Diablo - 17.24%
KOS-MOS - 18.24%
Mega Man - 56.24%

Axel - 6.28%
Frog - 33.24%
Samus Aran - 49.24%
Sarah Kerrigan - 11.24%

Agent 47 - 16.28%
Kratos Aurion - 22.24%
Midna - 31.24%
Scorpion - 28.24%

Kefka - 33.24%
Marcus Fenix - 52.24%
Tom Nook - 9.24%
Zelos Wilder - 5.28%

Cloud Strife - 61.24%
Jill Valentine - 20.24%
Midgar Zolom - 9.28%
Revolver Ocelot - 9.24%

Auron - 34.24%
Chris Redfield - 17.24%
Pyramid Head - 10.28%
Shadow the Hedgehog - 38.24%

Bowser - 28.24%
Mewtwo - 16.24%
Ryu (Street Fighter) - 44.24%
Toad - 11.24%
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If you think the fastest way to a man's heart is through his stomach, you're aiming about 8 inches too high.
From: Xuxon | Posted: 8/26/2007 11:37:41 AM | Message Detail
Yeah, you can.

The sum of your predictions in a match does not need to be equal to 100.00%.
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NLB - Level 97/98/98/99/99/99, 39 hunts completed - Undying defeated
From: meche313 | Posted: 8/26/2007 2:38:40 PM | Message Detail
Let's give this a try! Woooo.

Knuckles the Echidna - 32.2%
Rikku - 21.8%
Vaan - 13%
Yoshi - 34%

Arthas Menethil - 6.7%
Diablo - 15.2%
KOS-MOS - 17.4%
Mega Man - 60.7%

Axel - 12.5%
Frog - 18.5%
Samus Aran - 63.1%
Sarah Kerrigan - 5.9%

Agent 47 - 17.1%
Kratos Aurion - 20.8%
Midna - 32%
Scorpion - 30.1%
From: creativename | Posted: 8/26/2007 10:59:43 PM | Message Detail
I made a post about the math theory behind how these 4-way battles might work: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/detail.php?board=8&topic=37693592&message=414547155

Basically, results in this format are probably going to be very, very skewed if that theory stuff is right. We are going to see some characters with almost unimaginably bad percentages here - it won't simply be that if a character is 10% against Link, he'd get around 5% against Clinkeroth in a 4-character match; he'd actually get much worse (if my theory stuff is accurate).

I'll try to work out a formulaic way of handling this, rather than actually generated random numbers and comparing them. When I do that, I might make a form on my site where you can enter your estimates for strength, and then it will give you copy&pastable Oracle results - if anyone thinks such a thing might be useful (I'm posting about it to put some pressure on myself not to lazy-out on it later...though there's a good chance I won't do it for a long time)

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From: creativename | Posted: 8/26/2007 11:48:49 PM | Message Detail
...and I think I'm going to need some help with the math here. I've been trying to see if I can get a formula, but am getting increasingly confuzzled.

Let's use some simple strength ranges of [0,1.0], [0,.80], [0,.50], and [0,.25] - i.e. mean strengths of 50%, 40%, 25%, and 12.5%. (let's call them names Link, Strong, Midcard, and Jobber). The basic assumption for heads-up against Jobber is that Link's realized strength (for a particular voter) will be between 0 and .25 25% of the time, and above it 75% of the time; and that if his strength is below 25%, he has a 50/50 shot of getting that vote. Thus, his expected vote %age against Jobber is: .25*50%+.75*1. Which is 87.5%.

But how does this work 4-way? The thing that came to my mind was to split the first 25% of votes 4 ways, then the next 25% 3 ways (since Midcard is 25% stronger than Jobber), then the next 30% 2 ways (Strong is 30% stronger than Midcard), and give the last 20% to Link. This gives an estimate of .25/4+.25/3+.3/2+.2~=49.6% for the other 3 characters, and thus 50.4% for Link. But Link's simulation based percentage is about 54.6% (and 34.6% for Strong, 10.1% for Midcard, and 1% for Jobber). The estimate is reasonably close, but clearly wrong.

Anyone have any thoughts? The concepts and algebra are a bit tricky here.

Maybe trying this in a simpler 3-way example will generate some insights...?
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From: creativename | Posted: 8/26/2007 11:51:23 PM | Message Detail
(since Midcard is 25% stronger than Jobber)

By this I mean that his strength range goes .25 higher - [0,.50] vs. [0,.25]
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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 8/27/2007 12:34:14 AM | Message Detail
How does your math hold up when compared to last year's Battle Royale?
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 8/27/2007 12:41:16 AM | Message Detail
Ha, I just asked him the same thing over in Stats. Maybe there are other multiple-answer polls we could test it out against as well... like favorite Mario Character, favorite Square villain? Eh, hard to think of a past poll like that where the results weren't super-SFFed.

Anyways creative if you come up with a formula you're happy with, I could turn it into a 4-way calculator over on lolx, if you didn't want to put any more time into it.

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From: Haste_2 | Posted: 8/27/2007 7:15:43 AM | Message Detail
I think multi-option polls will be pretty linear... I'm thinking the reason they didn't appear so in the Battle Royale last year was this: first of all, SFF galore. The other thing is that some of the guys, mainly Link and Cloud, are so incredibly popular, that their favoritism outshines their 1-on-1 strength due to anti-votes and the like. That's all just a guess, though.

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From: King Morgoth | Posted: 8/27/2007 10:21:11 AM | Message Detail
Anyone have any thoughts? The concepts and algebra are a bit tricky here.

I've been thinking of doing something like this ever since this was announced but opening up those text books is always painful =P

Since you've come up with something though I can actually build on it...I'll throw something in this afternoon...the website's almost (>_>) done anyway!

I move to push this towards the Oracle discussion topic though.
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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 8/27/2007 12:34:07 PM | Message Detail
Knuckles the Echidna - 29.50%
Rikku - 26.50%
Vaan - 12.00%
Yoshi - 32.00%

Arthas Menethil - 8.00%
Diablo - 14.00%
KOS-MOS - 15.00%
Mega Man - 63.00%

Axel - 15.50%
Frog - 15.50%
Samus Aran - 62.70%
Sarah Kerrigan - 6.30%

Agent 47 - 11.50%
Kratos Aurion - 22.50%
Midna - 31.00%
Scorpion - 35.00%

Kefka - 27.00%
Marcus Fenix - 28.00%
Tom Nook - 23.00%
Zelos Wilder - 22.00%

Cloud Strife - 65.50%
Jill Valentine - 15.00%
Midgar Zolom - 5.00%
Revolver Ocelot - 14.50%

Auron - 40.20%
Chris Redfield - 21.00%
Pyramid Head - 8.20%
Shadow the Hedgehog - 30.60%

Bowser - 35.50%
Mewtwo - 31.50%
Ryu (Street Fighter) - 21.00%
Toad - 12.00%


Wow...that took forever.
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From: King Morgoth | Posted: 8/27/2007 1:16:34 PM | Message Detail
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/detail.php?board=8&topic=37564294&message=414670556

My reply to creative's post....
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From: creativename | Posted: 8/27/2007 8:04:53 PM | Message Detail
Haste2:
I think multi-option polls will be pretty linear...

I'm almost positive it isn't. You can see for yourself by running Excel simulations, it only takes a couple minutes. It is highly non-linear; it only works out linearly 2-way because of the simplicity. The same theoretical base generalized to 3 or more characters becomes highly non-linear very quickly.

My prediction is that people who haven't read about this will be just blown away by how mind-numbingly pathetic the %ages of many of the 4th place finishers will be.

I'm thinking the reason they didn't appear so in the Battle Royale last year was this: first of all, SFF galore. The other thing is that some of the guys, mainly Link and Cloud, are so incredibly popular, that their favoritism outshines their 1-on-1 strength due to anti-votes and the like.

The Battle Royale had much SFF, but then lots of these matches do as well. But it wasn't particularly anomalous I think. As for anti-votes, I've never seen any evidence for that being anything different than core strength. That might be similar to "core fanbase loyalty" or something; I do think there will be some friction (and in some cases a lot of friction) against characters who have cult fanbases getting really low percentages, but unless a weak character has a cult or loyal fanbase, expect them to get whacked so bad it will make your eyes hurt!


King Morgoth:
I move to push this towards the Oracle discussion topic though.

Whoop, didn't realize there was one. I would've posted there instead, my bad.
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From: yazzy14 | Posted: 8/28/2007 7:08:14 AM | Message Detail
Division 1
Knuckles the Echidna - 33.12
Rikku - 22.10
Vaan - 14.34
Yoshi - 30.44

Arthas Menethil - 11.50
Diablo - 14.56
KOS-MOS - 30.11
Mega Man - 43.83

Axel - 11.46
Frog - 23.05
Samus Aran - 51.02
Sarah Kerrigan - 14.47

Agent 47 - 12.87
Kratos Aurion - 28.16
Midna - 29.57
Scorpion - 29.40


Division 2
Kefka - 37.15
Marcus Fenix - 29.63
Tom Nook - 15.22
Zelos Wilder - 18.00

Cloud Strife - 59.94
Jill Valentine - 18.19
Midgar Zolom - 4.20
Revolver Ocelot - 17.67

Auron - 32.49
Chris Redfield - 22.48
Pyramid Head - 17.23
Shadow the Hedgehog - 27.80

Bowser - 29.43
Mewtwo - 21.90
Ryu (Street Fighter) - 29.55
Toad - 19.12
From: Half There | Posted: 8/28/2007 7:14:28 AM | Message Detail
I'll be filling this out later. Neat.
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From: Yesmar | Posted: 8/28/2007 1:26:09 PM | Message Detail
Division 2

Kefka- 35.00%
Marcus Fenix- 29.17%
Zelos Wilder- 19.92%
Tom Nook- 15.91%

Cloud Strife- 68.90%
Jill Valentine- 12.89%
Midgar Zolom- 4.33%
Revolver Ocelot- 13.88%

Auron- 40.09%
Chris Redfield- 16.18%
Pyramid Head- 8.28%
Shadow the Hedgehog- 35.45%

Bowser- 37.93%
Mewtwo- 17.80%
Ryu- 31.61%
Toad- 12.66%
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From: ad00 | Posted: 8/28/2007 4:10:15 PM | Message Detail
I absolutely hate these picks but I'm feeling so clueless.

Division 1
Knuckles the Echidna - 35%
Rikku - 24%
Vaan - 8%
Yoshi - 33%

Arthas Menethil - 8%
Diablo - 13%
KOS-MOS - 20%
Mega Man - 59%

Axel - 12%
Frog - 18%
Samus Aran - 66%
Sarah Kerrigan - 4%

Agent 47 - 2%
Kratos Aurion - 20%
Midna - 42%
Scorpion - 36%

Division 2
Kefka - 37%
Marcus Fenix - 30%
Tom Nook - 11%
Zelos Wilder - 22%%

Cloud Strife - 74%
Jill Valentine - 16%
Midgar Zolom - 3%
Revolver Ocelot - 7%

Auron - 44%
Chris Redfield - 20%
Pyramid Head - 6%
Shadow the Hedgehog - 30%

Bowser - 34%
Mewtwo - 10%
Ryu (Street Fighter) - 50%
Toad - 6%
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From: TheKnightOfNee | Posted: 8/28/2007 5:17:38 PM | Message Detail
A couple more for now.

Arthas Menethil -9.05%
Diablo - 24.08%
KOS-MOS -16.13%
Mega Man - 50.74%

Axel - 15.40%
Frog - 19.99%
Samus Aran - 46.77%
Sarah Kerrigan - 17.84%
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From: XxSoulxX | Posted: 8/28/2007 5:28:24 PM | Message Detail
Easy-to-fill List
Knuckles the Echidna - 36%
Rikku - 19%
Vaan - 11%
Yoshi - 34%

I'll post the others when I have time.
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From: Ness26 | Posted: 8/28/2007 5:33:57 PM | Message Detail
CHANGE
Knuckles the Echidna - 30.01%
Rikku - 22.02%
Vaan - 13.66%
Yoshi - 34.31%
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From: GalacticMage777 | Posted: 8/28/2007 9:54:44 PM | Message Detail
Knuckles the Echidna - 22.83%
Rikku - 9.09%
Vaan - 26.11%
Yoshi - 45.13%

Arthas Menethil - 6.32%
Diablo - 18.01%
KOS-MOS - 14.13%
Mega Man - 62.67%

Axel - 7.55%
Frog - 19.26%
Samus Aran - 73.23%
Sarah Kerrigan - 5.62%

Agent 47 - 7.26%
Kratos Aurion - 7.26%
Midna - 45.45%
Scorpion - 45.45%

Kefka - 29.11%
Marcus Fenix - 33.80%
Tom Nook - 15.66%
Zelos Wilder - 20.02%

Cloud Strife - 68.88%
Jill Valentine - 17.23%
Midgar Zolom - 4.04%
Revolver Ocelot - 14.15%

Auron - 42.23%
Chris Redfield - 12.02%
Pyramid Head - 12.02%
Shadow the Hedgehog - 38.61%

Bowser - 45.98%
Mewtwo - 11.23%
Ryu (Street Fighter) - 36.25%
Toad - 10.23%
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From: KingBartz | Posted: 8/29/2007 7:36:45 AM | Message Detail
Knuckles the Echidna - 32%
Rikku - 20%
Vaan - 18%
Yoshi - 30%

Arthas Menethil -13%
Diablo - 17%
KOS-MOS - 23%
Mega Man - 47%

Axel - 22%
Frog - 30%
Samus Aran - 40%
Sarah Kerrigan - 8%

Agent 47 - 14%
Kratos Aurion - 27%
Midna - 30%
Scorpion - 29%

Kefka - 35%
Marcus Fenix - 37%
Tom Nook - 13%
Zelos Wilder - 15%

Cloud Strife - 50%
Jill Valentine - 26%
Midgar Zolom - 10%
Revolver Ocelot - 14%

Auron - 37%
Chris Redfield - 21%
Pyramid Head - 12%
Shadow the Hedgehog - 30%

Bowser - 28%
Mewtwo - 22%
Ryu (Street Fighter) - 30%
Toad - 20%

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From: Kaxon | Posted: 8/29/2007 10:05:39 AM | Message Detail
yazzy, you forgot the % signs. Reposting for you so the script can pick them up.

Division 1
Knuckles the Echidna - 33.12%
Rikku - 22.10%
Vaan - 14.34%
Yoshi - 30.44%

Arthas Menethil - 11.50%
Diablo - 14.56%
KOS-MOS - 30.11%
Mega Man - 43.83%

Axel - 11.46%
Frog - 23.05%
Samus Aran - 51.02%
Sarah Kerrigan - 14.47%

Agent 47 - 12.87%
Kratos Aurion - 28.16%
Midna - 29.57%
Scorpion - 29.40%


Division 2
Kefka - 37.15%
Marcus Fenix - 29.63%
Tom Nook - 15.22%
Zelos Wilder - 18.00%

Cloud Strife - 59.94%
Jill Valentine - 18.19%
Midgar Zolom - 4.20%
Revolver Ocelot - 17.67%

Auron - 32.49%
Chris Redfield - 22.48%
Pyramid Head - 17.23%
Shadow the Hedgehog - 27.80%

Bowser - 29.43%
Mewtwo - 21.90%
Ryu (Street Fighter) - 29.55%
Toad - 19.12%
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From: yazzy14 | Posted: 8/29/2007 10:06:57 AM | Message Detail
Sorry about that. Would you like me to delete it and repost it myself?
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